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Proper corrections under saddle?

Hello! 100 lessons completed

Is there a lesson or thread that shows/teaches how to do a proper correction under saddle? I just rewatched part 1&2 on Standing Still. In part 2, Monty says how Chrome was a fuss bucket when he was first in training. What do you DO if they really start fussing? I was riding my mare the other day and she was doing really good about standing still. If she moved, I would correct her by backing her a few steps and walking her back to position. But, further into our ride, she began really fussing when I would correct her for moving. Instead of backing a few steps she would either brace herself, or go sideways, or throw her head all over the place, instead of giving to the bit and backing. What am I doing wrong?

renjaho - Hamburg, Germany
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Hi!
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Could you videotape that? Maybe it is a problem of your bodylanguage that confuses her. If we were able to see what you are doing whe could give better advice.
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Best wishes from Hamburg, Germany
Jasmin

Kleinne - Utah, U.S.A.
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My horse was a real pain when it came to standing still, he just would not hold his feet still, always dancing in circles nervously and pushing through the bit to move. I used this concept with him and it worked wonders, I started teaching him to stand still first with the dually, when he learned to stand still with the dually then I moved on to the bit. One thing I did differently then you is that when he moved I would correct him back a few steps with short quick bursts and then immediately take the pressure off, not walking him back into position but just letting him stand were he stopped, if that makes sense. If he moved his feet, correction again and pressure off. I would have him stand a few seconds or minutes relaxed then we would move forward when I asked him too. Working with the dually first seemed to allow him to learn the concept without being to rough on his mouth and once he learned it, then it didn't take much to translate that to the bit.
I hope this helps,
Kleinne

Kleinne - Utah, U.S.A.
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Another thing that I learned to do was to ride with both the dually and the bit with reins to both so that I had ultra control when I needed it. I could correct properly but not harshly this helped a lot with him. He responded very quickly with this system. It's kind of a pain to have two sets of reins to deal with but very effective.

corbengra
Hello! 100 lessons completed

Thanks Jasmin, but at this point, I do not have a video camera. Is there a lesson that is available the shows some good examples of corrections?

renjaho - Hamburg, Germany
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Maybe you could borrow one? I do not know about any other videos.

corbengra
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Thanks kleinne. I've worked with her standing in halter, and she's quite good. I can brush, clean her feet and tack up without her being tied. The only time she moves her feet is if a fly bites her. I'm going to try the quick correction of backing, and then release right away instead of asking for the forward movement after. Thanks!

Kleinne - Utah, U.S.A.
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Corbengra,
When I said I started with the dually I mean't that I rode him with the dually and corrected from the saddle, not outside of the yard just around the house. I'm sorry I wasn't clear about that, but try the dually from the saddle first and then the bit.
Good luck,
Kleinne

Kicki -- Sweden
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Corbengra,
I am not altogether sure that you did do something wrong. In my experience, most horses take two steps forward and one step back in the learning curve. The first sessions might be going very well, while the horse is trying to figure out what to do.
However, because they do have minds of their own, you will almost always encounter a point where the horse begins to test the boundaries of this new request to see if there is a way to get out of things it isn't too interested in doing for the moment.
Since they are animals that will always take the easiest way out, and it is our job as riders to present them with one that makes them comply with our wish.
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Also, possibly, the concept of standing still wasn't quite as "set" in her mind, as you've been led to believe. They need lots of repetition to "grasp" what we want sometimes. Or, maybe, you relaxed and did things a tiny bit differently?
Or maybe she just felt she had done enough of that exercise for one day and wanted to tell you to stop nagging her about it! ;) ;) ;)
Good luck, sorting her out! I'm positive you will fix it!

corbengra
Hello! 100 lessons completed

Thanks kleinne and kicki! That's a great idea of using the dually with the bridle. I don't have one as of yet, but I do plan on ordering one. I will use my rope halter in the mean time. With Dee only being 4, I am just teaching her. I just want to make DARNED SURE that I'm doing things right. I never thought of it as the "telling me to stop nagging her". Too much of a good thing sometimes can turn the opposite direction. I will definitely try both these approaches! :) ty!

Rudi - Pratteln, Switzerland
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Dear Corbengra
For the horse the lesson at home and outside is different. I woud start the exercise outside from the ground.
Rudi