I take all of the blame for my first JoinUp not going very well. I know it isn't my horses fault. However, I am looking for advice on how to do better next time. The biggest thing is my horse kept stopping and I had a hard time keeping him going. A little history: he was an Amish workhorse (Percheron) for probably 15 years of his life. He has a ton of physical and mental scars and was basically completely withdrawn when he came to the rescue. They had him for about 2 years and he slowly came out of his shell, but he still has a long way to go. I adopted him about 6 months ago and have been working on bonding more than anything, but I am trying this program to hopefully gain his trust and respect. His biggest thing is to just shutdown. He just grounds down and won't move (and at 1800lbs+ I can't get him to move if he doesn't want to). Sometimes it takes me an hour to get him in from the pasture, because he just decides to stop. I don't want to force or use a whip or anything, since that was his life before. So back to the lesson today. I got him to move out, but he kept stopping and no matter how large I made myself, or even the leadline hitting him when I threw it out (which I know it isn't supposed to, but usually they move out of the way! He just sat there and let it tap him). He just stood, face to the rail, but not moving. I have lunged horses (although not him) and believe I understand where to place your energy to drive them on versus to stop them, and he just wouldn't move out. After a little bit I ended up having to go up to him and drag his head along the rail and tap him on the butt a few times to get him going in a circle (still, only at a walk, nothing intimidates him to move faster - guess that's what happens when people beat you into submission for 15 years - You just ground down to stand there and take whatever is coming :(). Once I did get him going, I got the first two gestures fairly quickly - ear on me and smaller circle (although I think that might have been him being lazy). But I never got a head drop or licking and chewing. I know you aren't supposed to keep them going to exhaustion, so after about 20 minutes of him walking without the other gestures, I tried a Join Up anyways. He did take one step towards me then stopped. I walked up to him, patted his forehead, and called it a day. I will be trying again, but any advice? Even when we are riding or anything, when he gets scared (say, a deer jumps out) he immediately stops and puts on the breaks until he feels safe again. So how do I make a horse go who puts on the brakes anytime I attempt to be seen as a predator? Anyone else ever have this problem?