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Cinchy and pull back horse

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Ok, so I know that Monty has told about what to do with a cinchy horse in his books and in is Q & A. Although I didn't use Monty's technique, I managed to get my mare to overcome her problem. So then I moved on to the next one which was the pull back. I finally bought the Leader and am proud to say that it works. My mare pulled back when I tried to tighten the cinch and everything held up. Now I am back to square one. She rears sometimes and always dances when I put the saddle on. I do believe that this cinchy problem has made the pull back problem even worse. My mare has broken many ties and halters. And no I do not have a gate behind my horse like I should. Currently I don't have access to one and my hitching post is a lovely tree.

Syd
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Sorry I didn't make myself clear in my previous message. Because I tried to tighten the cinch while she was tied, it caused her to pull back and fight. The next day I did the same thing because nothing bad happened, and it seemed to me that everything was fine because my horse had learned that she couldn't break the tie, get away, and win. But she broke the halter and like I said before, I am back to square one. Can anyone tell me where I can find an over girth so that I can begin on helping my horse to overcome her phobia? And has anyone been able to fix both the pull back and cinchy problem horse ?

C.Grant
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Don't tie your horse while cinching her. It will only worsen both problems. I would put her in a round pen (or some other enclosed area) and cinch her slowly while holding the lead rope(get a 15ft or more). She will run circles around you... when she starts running wait for her to stop. When she does give her a rub and repeat. I would do this every day until she doesn't move when cinching. A surcingle would work well for this because you don't have to worry about the saddle falling off, but you still get the cinching that you need.

Syd
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Well I learned not to tie her the hard way and also discovered that rule through Monty's book, From My Hands To Yours, but of course after I made the mistake. The funny thing is that she doesn't dance when I give her hay. Eventually I would like to work away from that, but every time I do, she still dances, it's weird.

C.Grant
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How is she to ride? I'm just wondering if she isn't getting excited while your tacking her up. When you feed her hay she relaxes. Try just saddling and unsaddling her without going for a ride for a couple days... try to get her to improve with the cinching before you add the excitment of going out on a ride to the mix... just a thought...

Syd
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That's exactly what I did! And I was so happy because after a few times she quit dancing. So I thought she was ready to confront her next problem. But like I said, I was so wrong. Do you think that I will just have to live with it?

C.Grant
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There is a cause for everything. Have you had the saddle checked for fit? If the saddle is causing pain, I saw your reply in the uni suggestion box and it kind of implies that the cinchyness only started after you bought her. Ask a chiropracter to check out her back. Check your girth for wear and look under your horse for sore spots from the girth. I know some sensitive horses that get sores in the tender spots of their armpits because the girth will rub.
Get a stretchy piece of fabric about 8 inches wide, fold it over so its only 4" and put it across her back without a saddle or anything. Try reaching under her just as you would to cinch her up and tighten it around her girth. If you got her to quit once, then you should beable to get her to quit again.
I hope this helps, just keep trying. Ask an experienced friend or a trainer to watch you and the horse, sometimes they see something that you cannot.