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Creating a suitable chute/ behaviour in the chute

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Hi I am currently working with two horses (although I'm actually looking after nine in total), but these two - one is remedial - his name is Star. Star is a quarter horse gelding who has been abused, trained using old-school methods and basically has had his trust broken totally. 
The other is a young quarter horse mare who hasn't been handled (not even touched) and hasn't had her trust broken.
I have done join up with Star three times and he's coming to me and now letting me touch his front areas but his adrenalin comes up if I raise the halter near his head. I'm trying to do it incrementally, rubbing him with the halter, but am wondering if I will need to use a chute.
As for the mare, her name is Georgia, I have done join up and it has caused her to be less afraid of me and hang out reasonably close but she's doesn't want to let me in her personal bubble. For her, to get close enough to touch and walk away, and put a halter on, I'm thinking of using a chute. I have been studying the lessons on the Uni where untouched horses are started using the chute.
For the chute I have two options, I can try and create one using temp fencing panels in the round pen because my round pen is made of temp fencing panels so it's versatile that way.  Or there is a chute in a local farmer's stockyard for loading cattle onto trucks. I want to make sure I create a safe environment for me and the horse. Should I expect the mare to act crazy the first time in reaction to my coming close to touch her?
I'm not totally sure what to expect of the mare's behaviour in a chute for the first time. 
How tight does the chute need to be? No room for the horse to move forwards, sideways, backwards at all?
Kathryn in NZ
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I've concluded that as long as I move forward in small incremental, repetitive positive steps, ensuring that one step has reached a level of acceptance and calmness before beginning the next step, we should be able to get to where we want to be.
JoHewittVINTA
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Hi Kathryn. I think Monty only uses his very substantial chute system when the horses are so very green that they are highly likely to either injure themselves or the handlers. The core of everything Monty advocates is trust. If you can control your breathing & body language in order to approach any horse in relative safely then working incrementally, as you suggest, is the preferred option. Allowing choice, allowing mistakes without pain as a consequence is to nurture learning & progress. My own experience is that this route gives both horse & human immense satisfaction in jobs well done & lessons learned thoroughly & quickly. Good luck & keep us updated on how you get on. Cheers, Jo.


Kathryn in NZ
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Hi Jo, thanks for your reply. Yes what you said is what's been happening. I'm happy to report things have been going very well. Georgia is so calm and has been handling everything new to her beautifully. She's now used to the halter and today had her first lesson learning to lead with a dually halter.
Star is still a work in progress regarding building trust and bringing his adrenalin down but I'm now able to halter him so that's great. Next will be the dually and leading for him as well. :) :) :)