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English Stopping

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Hi all,
I have just finished watching the stopping lessons and I noticed that all of the stopping Monty did was western. How would one train a horse to stop using english methods?
Thanks
Equi

Gen (Queensland, Australia)
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Hello :-)
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You would use the same concepts of going to the fence and asking for the stop. The only difference would be that instead of giving the western ques, you would use your english ones.
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I have not ridden proper English for many years, and I can't remember what the correct ques are. Perhaps someone will explain it better. But it's the same concept.
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Kind regards,
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Gen

Kicki -- Sweden
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Hi EquiAbi,
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Gen is right - the concept is pretty much the same; the fence will help your horse to get the idea.
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Stopping is pretty much like slowing down, only more so.
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The aids in English riding for a *young* horse beginning to learn to stop from a walk are:
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Straighten up your back.
Raise your hands and close your fingers around the reins to create a "block" - but NO pull!
"Close" all your joints to stop following the movement of the horse - thereby creating a resistance - and let your legs become long and heavy as if you were to anchor your feet on the ground.
Be careful that your seat stays in the saddle even if you put weight in your stirrups!
If necessary, add the vocal command for a stop. (Of course, this command must be well known by the horse from ground exercises!)
Once your horse has stopped, you relax (esp. your hands!)and sit still.
If you inhaled as you closed your hands, you exhale when he has stopped. You can practice the "breathe in and tense up - breathe out and relax" on the ground a couple of times first. (Eventually, all you need to do to collect your horse is to take a deep breath.) ;)

Gen (Queensland, Australia)
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Hi Kicki
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Very well put :-)
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Kind regards
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Gen

star
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HUMBUG!!!!!!
Be safe, get lessons from a professional.
Ronda
PS: If you follow the advice given from above you are going to end up on the ground, over the top of the head of the horse!!!!!
There is great advice on English riding, including stopping your horse on a site called: Riding tips.(English and Western)

Dennis
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EquiAbi
While everyone is trying to help you with your questions and giving you hints on how to achieve your goals. There are fundamental skills you need to posses to be a horse person. One of those skills is how to control your horse in any situation. I believe there is no such thing as a stupid questions, and some of the questions you are asking help with are part of fundamental equitation.
Ronda is correct in recommending you take riding lessons. You are never too old or too good to take lessons. The one thing that I have found is that if there is someone who is skilled in proper equitation they can make all the difference in your riding. We can tell you all the steps in a maneuver and you can follow them to the letter and it still will not be correct because your body does not have the muscle memory yet to know when you are in the correct position.

One of the best lessons I have had was I was told to ride without stirrups, and I had to touch different parts of the horse as well as different parts on my body. I had to do this in all gaits. What this taught me was balance and confidence. My riding became more positive and made it easier for me to advance with other skills. So now if my horse blows up or spooks and I loose a stirrup I don't worry about it, it is no longer a distraction to getting control of my horse.
So get lessons either group lessons or private if you can afford them. You will end up a more capable rider.

Cheers

EquiAbi (UK)
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Yes I do take private lessons and I agree that you must have control of your horse in all situations.
Thanks for your help:)
Equi

Dennis
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EquiAbi
Good for you, that should really help you become a proficient rider. Keep with it!

Cheers

star
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Equi,
If you are taking private lessons and ask a question on how to stop "English" it makes me wonder about your instructor.
There are basic things to keep in mind when you want a horse to stop.
1. Keep your heels DOWN
2. Keep your bottom DOWN
3. Pull GENTLY on the reins
4. SQUEEZE your butt
If your horse does not stop by doing this, get off it!!!! Every sound horse knows these basic signals.