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Pacifier Mask?

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arabian2hearts
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Hello,

I've got a horse that loves to balk when asked to go forward. I recently watched the "Walter Won't Go Forward" series on the University and think this would be very beneficial to my horse. :) I bought the giddy-up rope and have some spurs I can use, but I cannot find a Pacifier Mask anywhere, aside from a couple that are nearly $100. (Yikes!) I've looked all over online, and haven't had much luck at all. Is there anywhere I can go where I can find one, and preferably at a decent price range? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Dennis
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If yu go to Amazon.com They sell a fly mask that can be adapted to a pacifier mask
http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Super-Mesh-Bug-Mask/dp/B003Y3FYA6

Cheers

arabian2hearts
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Thank you so much! I will do that.

rgussg
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did you find that fly mask

Rudi - Pratteln, Switzerland
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Gen has once left a place where you can by a pacifier.

http://www.hylandsportswear.com/pacifiers-black-p-404.html?osCsid=a4729835535ba86abeab825baee1b59e

arabian2hearts
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Yes I did find that fly mask. I bought one earlier, but it was too small so I bought another one the next size up, but it hasn't come in yet. Hopefully soon.
And thanks Rudi for the link to that pacifier if this fly mask I've already ordered doesn't work. I appreciate it.

Judgerg
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I know this chain is old, but I had the same problem and looked everywhere for a pacifier.  I found something that I think will work at BigDees.  Search for Hood with Mesh Goggles.  It is $69.95.  I have not received it yet but it looks like it will work. 
Kicki -- Sweden
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I realize I butt in here without having a clear picture of what the pacifier mask must look like to work, but would it be possible to modify a fly mask with duct tape or similar?
I'm thinking of the stiffer kind of mesh hoods that goes around the head without touching the eyes.
JoHewittVINTA
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Hi Kiki. Yes, any mask that stands proud of the eyes can be adapted. However, I helped someone with a rearing, balking thoroughbred by suggesting padding the bridle to restrict sight backwards & upwards. That was easy to do, foam rubber is readily available & can be taped to the brow band & cheek pieces. Perhaps not pretty but it was effective. Cheers, Jo.
bahila73
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Hello all;  Yes Kiki. duct tape on a fly mask does work.
The very first thing that I would suggest to be looked at is the method of asking your horse to go forward.  WHAT ARE THE PRELIMINARY STEPS?  Much of the training that I see happening nowadays consists of JUST squeezing the horse with your legs and expecting a reaction of going forward without the release.  The biggest problem that I see with this approach is that all of the previous training we have taught our horse to respond is with the idea that a release of pressure is the cue that spells success for the direction that we wanted our horse to go in; SO WHY NOT THIS?  The very good trainers of our time work with this approach on a daily basis when working with their horses.  We, as trainers, need to be consistent with this approach in ALL OF OUR TRAINING TECHNIQUES.  THAT INCLUDES A RELEASE OF PRESSUE  [OUR LEGS] AFTER THE SQUEEZE CUE HAS HAPPENED.  I do not know how your cueing approach is communicated to the horse in question, but so many folks forget HOW MUCH that the release of the GO-AHEAD squeeze means to the horse in its response to the cue.  Again, all the training that leads us to a place with our horse that we can mount and ask for the go-ahead is based on the release of pressure following the cue.
I know that this is very simplistic response to the problem that is being discussed, but I see this overlooked with so many of the riders that are searching for a better giddy-up response from their horse.
`Hope this helps;

Bud

Debbie Roberts Loucks, USA
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In case anyone reading this thread wants to go to the lesson, its here: https://montyrobertsuniversity.com/training/2031188661 
Also, I've purchased the BigDee's mesh goggles Judgerg mentions above and it works. They are used in racing to prevent dirt clods hitting the eyes so they cup over the eye yet the horse can see just fine. 

demeyer805
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2023 update:  I was able to find the Zilco Mesh pacifier with the (removable) plastic 1/2 cup for a good price in the United States from Meadersupply.com.  About $60 plus shipping.  Here's the link: https://meadersupply.com/products/zilco-airlite-race-hood?_pos=1&_sid=3d248be46&_ss=r
Debbie Roberts Loucks, USA
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Thanks! @demeyer805

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